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EatersFan	What is the process for a walk on to get on the team?		Lead	[-]
Member Posts: 22 09/08/09 10:28 AM	Tags : None I see UCLA listed their roster and have included walk ons as part of their roster. It made me curious as to how walk ons get on the team? When do they try out and how is it know if they will make the team before the team can legally hold practices? Has UCI released its roster yet? UCLA's roster http//www.uclabruins.com/sports/m-baskbl/mtt/ucla-m-baskbl-mtt.html
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No33pc	Invited	#1	[url]	[-]
Member Posts: 715 09/08/09 1:21 PM	Usually only by invitation from the coaching staff. They are usually recruited players for whom no scholarship is open, but some kind of arrangement has been discussed that if they walkon and contribute, a scholly will be available in the second year-- kind of "show me" situation. Some teams do hold open tryouts and invite one or two of those to be a "practice player" walk on. The players who go this route are usually those who participate in the open gym workouts and hence are already known to the returning players and they will mention to the coaching staff that "Mr X" would be a good walkon player. Very rare someone just "shows up" and makes the roster as a walkon.
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americandesi1987	2009-2010 Prospectus	#2	[url]	[-]
Member Posts: 264 09/09/09 3:55 AM	UCI Prospectus Check out the roster and schedule here.
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EatersFan	Thanks for the link - anyone want to make a guess on projected starters?	#3	[url]	[-]
Member Posts: 23 09/09/09 3:55 PM	I would guess there will be changes as the year goes on... Anyone seen Moore play recently? Is he healthy now? How is Wise fitness wise? He started last year a bit out of shape and worked himself into shape as the season progressed. I hope he comes in better shape to begin this year.
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UCIEATER		#4	[url]	[-]
Member Posts: 25 09/10/09 2:37 AM	I think PD is going to switch up the starting lineups alot in the first 7-10 games like he did last year. But I think what I would like to see as the starting lineup would be: G- Hunter G- Strings G- Moore F- Wise C- Losonsky But I have a feeling that PD is going to end up with Rembert Hunter Moore Wise Atkinson
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Zot95		#5	[url]	[-]
Member Posts: 749 09/10/09 8:58 AM	I think that this is highly subject to change... one can only speculate how good the incoming players will be in D1. 1 Rembert 2 Hunter 3 Moore 4 Losonsky 5 Wise The X Factor (yes, that's a bold-faced, italicized x) is how the bigs do. Wise is pretty much the only established commodity. Atkinson and Folker both had their strengths, but improvement for both would be welcome. And of course, how the incoming Slovakian players fare as well.
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4Anteaters		#6	[url]	[-]
Member Posts: 13 09/10/09 11:20 AM	Zot95 wrote: I think that this is highly subject to change... one can only speculate how good the incoming players will be in D1. 1 Rembert 2 Hunter 3 Moore 4 Losonsky 5 Wise The X Factor (yes, that's a bold-faced, italicized x) is how the bigs do. Wise is pretty much the only established commodity. Atkinson and Folker both had their strengths, but improvement for both would be welcome. And of course, how the incoming Slovakian players fare as well. I think we will be pleasently surprised with the play of incoming frosh Wilder and Flowers. These guys can flat out play.
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Vit D		#7	[url]	[-]
Member Posts: 402 09/10/09 12:35 PM	Why do you put Wise at the 5 rather than Losonsky? I understand that Losonsky has a nice shot, but I personally would prefer to have a guy who is closer to a natural center (at least size wise) than Wise at that spot. While Wise can probably score either way, my guess would be that his defense and rebounding skills will be more useful at the 4 than the 5. Granted, I haven't seen Losonsky play at all, so my opinion might change at that time. D P.S. One thing I do feel strongly about is that any lineup is going to have to have Rembert in it (or perhaps Flowers if he has a good start.) I do not feel that Hunter is a point guard, and in order for the team to be successful (and to maximize Hunter's usefulness as a spot up shooter), they need a better passer and penetrator at the point guard spot.
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Zot95		#8	[url]	[-]
Member Posts: 750 09/10/09 1:23 PM	Vit D wrote: Why do you put Wise at the 5 rather than Losonsky? I understand that Losonsky has a nice shot, but I personally would prefer to have a guy who is closer to a natural center (at least size wise) than Wise at that spot. While Wise can probably score either way, my guess would be that his defense and rebounding skills will be more useful at the 4 than the 5. Granted, I haven't seen Losonsky play at all, so my opinion might change at that time. D P.S. One thing I do feel strongly about is that any lineup is going to have to have Rembert in it (or perhaps Flowers if he has a good start.) I do not feel that Hunter is a point guard, and in order for the team to be successful (and to maximize Hunter's usefulness as a spot up shooter), they need a better passer and penetrator at the point guard spot. The team prospectus lists Wise as a forward/center, whereas Losonsky is listed merely as a forward. I'm using that as a clue as to how they have been used, and how they expect to be used. I wouldn't get too hung up on that distinction now, because what the front court will look like is very fluid, depending on what kind of players show up in October. And it's not like there is too much difference between a 4 and 5 anyway in today's game. I would say for sure that Hunter would be a 2... except it seems like every year they have to go through the exercise of Hunter playing the point, until it becomes clear that he does much better as a shooter. So who knows, maybe they'll go through it again this year.
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cdm hoops		#9	[url]	[-]
Member Posts: 152 09/10/09 10:27 PM	UCIEATER wrote: I think PD is going to switch up the starting lineups alot in the first 7-10 games like he did last year. I don't think so. Irvine's offense is predicated on strong post play and good outside shooting. I've said it before and I'll repeat, basketball is about matchups and style of play. I think last year we had to find out where the bulk of the scoring was going to come from and who was going to replace D Fells as that strong post presence. We know the style, walk it up, be deliberate, work the ball inside out. On defense, primarily half court man to man. The trick is to pick your top 8 or 9 players and then insert those that are going to best make that style work with some contigency on the matchups of the team you'll be playing. In that regard I think a few positions are pretty much settled, with some mystery. One of the shortcomings that I foresee with this team is that when you shake out that top 8 or 9 there won't be the requisite number of good outside shooters in the group. Defensively, as I've mentioned before, Davis was our worst nightmare. I would have rather we played LB, Northridge, or UCSB in the bwt. Didn't want to see them in the BWT. Why... because they play our style better than we do. Early on in the BWT that game was on the verge of being a blowout. PD switched up, started applying 3/4 to full court pressure, played more up tempo and early in the second half we had taken control of the game and UCD played from behind for practically all of the second half. I think we need to see more of that, particularly in BW play even against the more athletic teams like Northridge and Fullerton. Not 40 minutes of hell, Arkansas style, but picking your spots. Again, when you arrive at the top 8 or 9 I think a case can be made for more full court pressure form time to time. That's my 2 cents.
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UCIEATER		#10	[url]	[-]
Member Posts: 26 09/11/09 12:49 AM	CDM HOOPS wrote: "Davis was our worst nightmare. I would have rather we played LB, Northridge, or UCSB in the bwt. Didn't want to see them in the BWT. Why... because they play our style better than we do" Also because they were a foot taller than us at every position! And it remains that way this year too. Wise can turn into a offensive beast in the post but at 6'5 (so they say) he creates some matchup problems on defense, that goes for hunter as well if he plays the SG position. Davis' SG is 6'7 Mark Payne, and a 6'11 center. Until Atkinson turns into a major defensive presence in the paint to help out, this may always bite us in the a**
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cdm hoops		#11	[url]	[-]
Member Posts: 153 09/11/09 1:24 AM	Davis has everyone outsized that wasn't, and I don't think will be, the primary issue this year. It will be the style we choose to play, when we play them. I think PD has it figured out. As far as Payne is concerned he's their pg. Shooting guard implies you have a shot and he has none... at least he had none. I don't care who Davis put's in the other guard spot Payne will be their playmaker and he along with Harden, will dominate the ball on offense. Everyone else, to some degree, was able to use their size against them on the other end of the court. After all they were the 8th seed, albeit one game and some tie breakers from the 4th seed.
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Vit D		#12	[url]	[-]
Member Posts: 403 09/11/09 8:05 AM	When thinking about the roster, I was actually a bit pleased to see that we might not be so heavily slanted towards the three pointer this year. Last year, we had two major contributors who provided almost nothing on the offensive end aside from pull up jump shots (Hunter and Lauer.) Derrick Strings was also close to fitting in to this mold as well. While I definitely like having a presence who can nail the three pointer when needed, I would also prefer it if we got more mid-range jumps shots and penetration layups from our players. Those types of things seem to be more consistent and reliable than hoping that your three point shooters will be "feeling it" on any given day. It will be interesting to see how and if Douglass can adjust his gameplan to fit around the personnel. If he can adjust the gameplan effectively, I think I like our mix of players this year more than I liked last year's.
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What is the process for a walk on to get on the team?	09/08/09 10:28 AM	EatersFan
Invited	09/08/09 1:21 PM	No33pc
2009-2010 Prospectus	09/09/09 3:55 AM	americandesi1987
Thanks for the link - anyone want to make a guess on projected starters?	09/09/09 3:55 PM	EatersFan
Re: What is the process for a walk on to get on the team?	09/10/09 2:37 AM	UCIEATER
Re: What is the process for a walk on to get on the team?	09/10/09 10:27 PM	cdm hoops
Re: What is the process for a walk on to get on the team?	09/11/09 12:49 AM	UCIEATER
Re: What is the process for a walk on to get on the team?	09/11/09 1:24 AM	cdm hoops
Re: What is the process for a walk on to get on the team?	09/11/09 8:05 AM	Vit D
Re: What is the process for a walk on to get on the team?	09/10/09 8:58 AM	Zot95
Re: What is the process for a walk on to get on the team?	09/10/09 11:20 AM	4Anteaters
Re: What is the process for a walk on to get on the team?	09/10/09 12:35 PM	Vit D
Re: What is the process for a walk on to get on the team?	09/10/09 1:23 PM	Zot95